Living for your family, however large it may be, is somethign I can fully understand. Living to make sure that their life is eased, I can appreciate indeed. For a long time I would also have shared your view of living only for them - maybe I still do - but I do find that living this way with the reward of enjoying your family and yourself - is something I have striven for. That makes it 'living', more than mere 'existing'.

But yes, I do understand that there is no alternative.

In any case, if you feel the need for the odd round of boxing or drinking, I have acquired quite a few nice bottles of high quality spirits.

Mun to Mun: This is perfectly Bill. It's heartbreaking to think that he doesn't live for himself.